What are you controversial/unpopular fragrance opinions and practices?
By - ultrakawaii
- People who buy fragrances explicitly to fish for compliments or increase their romantic odds need to go out and interact with actual human beings instead of having one-sided conversations with a screenshot of their favourite fragrance YouTuber for a change
- Normies will not be able to tell the difference between a $300 frag and a $30 frag. Hell, a lot of normies won’t even be able to tell the difference between a $300 frag and a $5 body spray. It’s fine to buy the $300 frag but do it because YOU like it.
There's nothing wrong with self-improvement for the purpose of being more attractive. If you don't typically like to wear fragrance, but seek it out for dates and the like, that makes total sense. There's no shame in that.
That said, "compliments" is undoubtedly one of the cringiest parts of online frag discussion, right behind the whole "this guy is the CEO, confident in the boardroom..." bullshit.
The CEO I know wears sweats and has a Tesla filled with fast-food bags. Money & power are not correlated with taste or hygiene.
It largely depends on the industry, but overall I agree with you.
For the most part I don’t see tech giants being too debonair, but executives in advertising, retail or in finance and many more are very much polished in varying degrees. It may not be how it used to be with the black oxfords with a toe shine and a crew cut that looks like 10 other men in the room, but in comparison to social dress code, a lot of executives are still posh to certain degrees.
Money & status definitely do not correlate with debonair.
Compliments, no. Romantic odds? Absolutely. Scent is a make or break for me in dating. If you smell good you are instantly sexier.
I think their point was more the “will this frag me laid?” crowd (more numerous on FB than here I’ve noticed).
Seconding this. Smelling good is a mark in the positive column. But it's very unlikely a fragrance is going to be the thing that convinces a woman to sleep with you if she doesn't already want to. (Can't speak for all women, though, obviously.)
60% of the time, it works every time.
Yeah my boyfriend has no idea what kind of perfume I wear and certainly can't tell if it's expensive or not, he just always says I "smell nice" haha. But perfume is for my own enjoyment, and I could really care less if anyone knows what I'm wearing.
TIL I'm a normie 😭
That other Post crying for compliments made me cringe. Fragrance is not a hack for lack of social skills. I say that as an unfit and socially awkward person.
You're absolutely engaging in hyperbole if you think someone can't tell the difference from a Tom Ford & a Bed Bath Bodyworks body spray. I don't think you *need* either, nor am I saying one is better than the other, but let's not get silly.
Riffing off the point about no one being able to tell the difference between a $300 and $30 dollar fragrance.
I’ve gotten pretty deep into the fragrance game this past year, and it’s become one of my biggest interests in life. When I started, I was very interested in high-end niche fragrances, as I wanted to find (what I thought at the time was) “the best of the best.” And while there are some INCREDIBLE, expensive and high-end niche fragrances out there for sure (I’ve loved almost every Amouage I’ve tried, but I could never justify a full bottle, tbh); I’ve actually found that the best fragrances are typically the mid-priced designer fragrances. And in realizing that, I had to actually come to the understanding that “the best” fragrances are really just ones that are the most inoffensive but still unique, most reliable and most mass-appealing. This makes sense, considering their solid consistent revenue streams act as a floor for some of the world’s biggest global luxury/fashion/cosmetic conglomerates - LVMH, Kering, OTB, PVH, EL, COTY, etc.
Idk - It’s like with cars. Sure, it would be amazing to drive around in a Rolls Royce Phantom, but given the cost and how reluctant I’d be to take out every day, I think I’d rather save $400k and just get a Lexus LS500. I’d still have an incredibly luxurious ride that brought me confidence, but its more reliable and I’d feel more comfortable with how I used it since my investment wasn’t monstrous.
^ The same goes for why I choose Narciso Rodriguez for Him over a bottle of Amouage Portrayal Man. NR for Him is a mass-market (widely appealing) fragrance created by a master at an incredibly reasonable cost - it’s the perfect type of fragrance; and now I realize that it’s truly one of the “best of the best.”
Any projection beyond arm's length is too much. It's like hearing someone's music from ten feet away, annoying and intrusive.
100%, I view massive projection as a negative.
I can't think of a place where massive projection is needed
I can't either. It comes off as weirdly aggressive to me. Like "I don't care what fragrance anyone else in this room may have chosen to wear, MINE is best and should dominate"
It's very aggressive. To a club maybe, but I'm way too old for clubs so it doesn't apply to me. But that might be the only time I could think it'd appropriate. So I correct my initial statement. Other than that I think its offensive
I remember reading a dictator's wife who gave the following advice to a neophyte politician running under their party:
"Wear a strong perfume so when you campaign, they'll know it's you."
I think I heard it said somewhere “fragrance is meant to be discovered, not assaulted by” or something along those lines 😄
Ha! I've usually heard "meant to be discovered, not announced", but there's definitely times it feels more like an assault.
Lmao that could’ve been what I heard!
For what it's worth, the assaulted variation is my favourite.
I agree with this. Sillage to me is a different thing altogether though, a few meters of trail is alright
"I only want to smell your perfume if I'm hugging you" is my motto. If I'm wearing it, sillage can make me nauseous after a couple of hours.
Same. It's like having fresh minty breath. A nice bonus for people who are close enough to notice, but obnoxiously aggressive outside that bubble.
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Especially when they're scents that aren't universally enjoyed. Generally, a fresh/clean scent isn't going to be *too* intrusive (though you should still not douse yourself). But when you're bathing in Pink Sugar or White Diamonds, you're going to offend some nostrils.
People are too paranoid about reformulations.
Women don’t care that much about what scent a man wears in terms of generating attraction. If shes into you the scent is just a good subject for a compliment.
Most of contemporary niche is just clever marketing and hype.
I think the other way around is true too. In my own experience, I don't really care what my companions smell like as long as they are clean. Most of the time I can't smell beyong my own little scent bubble anyway. And by the time I'm close enough to register a skin scent, my mind is otherwise occupied.
I agree with no. 1, but I also think it can even very frustrating to find a specific scent you like only to find a different batch smells wildly different (to your nose) even if other people can’t tell the difference.
Take my upvote
I think clone houses are perfectly fine and not doing anything wrong. These houses offer a cheaper alternative to those who can’t afford the crazy prices a lot of houses charge
On the other hand, people dislike copies of clothes, accessories and tech. Should perfume be viewed differently in terms of intellectual property rights? I’m just curious
For me it’s more like the iPod vs Zune/ MP3 player or Apple vs Android. I think it’d be ridiculous if fragrances were considered intellectual property. I don’t think the target market for clone houses would even be customers for niche houses. A lot of people buy decants of niche brands instead of the full bottle too.
For me clones feel more like an iPod vs iPod shell with zune software if that makes sense. If you can call it a clone it’s definitely not a ipod vs zune situation. That would be more of an inspired fragrance rather than a clone.
If the goal is to replicate a fragrance for your own profit it still feels like some kind of copyright infringement to me. BUT! With all that said I don’t mind clones to satisfy my curiosity about a scent.
Maybe it's their goal when they clone a fragrance but the end result is never the same thing. Good Knockoff shoes, bags, and clothes are very close to the original thing. I've never smelled a fragrance clone that was really close to the real thing(at least to the level of other faked luxury goods). They're usually similar but they always smells different enough from the real thing in the end. Many people would pay $45 for explorer or CDNIM and be happy with their purchase being 50-60% similar to Aventus. The real thing is good enough for some to spend the $300 for the real deal. If people are still buying Aventus and GIT then the clones aren't close to the original scent, but are good enough for many.
Do people dislike copied clothing? I feel like the general public *loves* fast fashion, buying a cheap dress that looks the same as an expensive designer one. Clothing doesn't have copyright protection in the US, only if it has a print on the textile, which is kind of the same as fragrance. You can copy the scent, but not the branding or artwork on the bottle.
There's a stigma to straight up counterfeits, but that's the ebay fake perfumes more than clone houses.
Bottle / presentation IS important. I think its part of the experience of a fragrance.
I refuse to buy bottles that don’t at least look decent. I spend time admiring my collection to much to have ugly bottles.
Yes! I love simple, beautiful, timeless bottle designs. Think Serge Lutens, Nishane, MMM, Le Labo. But I would never buy Moschino perfumes because the bottles are so ugly and I would honestly be kind of embarrassed to display them
Same for me. They're so tacky and it just cheapens the product in my opinion.
Xerjoff!!! I'm so tempted to buy
I couldn't agreed more. I love the experiences of taking the jobs out of my perfume drawer, opening the box, taking in the beautiful bottle and how it feels in my hands just as much as the fragrance...
Same here. I love sweet foods but I don’t like really sweet fragrances. Sometimes wear a gourmand because it sounds nice in theory, then I end up wanting to scrub it off my skin after an hour.
Have you tried indie frags? I also am not a fan of most modern women’s scents and indies are my go to. I mostly buy resinous, woodsy darker scents.
May I ask, what your favorite scents are?
As a dude that buys femme perfume to try and find scents I can wear because my love of florals is very deep, I felt this. If it's at all the kind of sweet that makes me think of candy or bubble gum, it makes me irritable. Even John Varvatos Vintage for men has a cherry cola kind of smell that I just can't stand. Versace Blue Jeans, cola and vanilla/tonka bean. Also irritated.
Just bought a decant of Burberry Rhythm Floral and it was painful. Also bought a decant of En Passant and Fleur de Portifino, and both are magic. Raw floral. No candy. Pure heaven.
Have you tried some of the classic femmes still in production? Stuff like Hermes Caleche and Amazone, Madame Rochas, Guerlain's Chant d'Aromes, or Paco Rabanne's Calandre? The modern formulas are respectable to the originals and they are all easily available.
I too find many perfumes sweet, even ones that are not gourmand or don't include gourmand notes. Many classic femmes are dry and absolutely not-sweet in a way that I think makes them very unisex. Don't be dissuaded by the "old lady" associations... IMO the perfume industry has been dominated by sweeties for about 20 years, so a lot of the classic perfumes are so unlike anything on the market that they actually smell fresh and unique. Often when I try one of the grand dames for the first time, I think "if this was released under a niche label today, it would have a cult following."
Have you tried zoologist hummingbird? I like this scent even as a guy.
Anyone who doesn't appreciate the glory of Chanel Egoiste is an uncultured swine.
Seems like I haven‘t seen you in more than a decade
I've missed you too.
What about Platinum?
Chanel Platinum Egoiste is my all time favorite. Scored a 99% full vintage bottle last year and it’s the number 2 gem in my collection behind my vintage YSL Rive Gauche.
1. I can't stand most gourmands. The majority I've smelled are excessively sweet and the idea of smelling like chocolate or pralines for extended periods of time doesn't appeal to me in the slightest.
2. Fragrance YouTube is mostly the same recycled content and Fragrantica note breakdowns compiled into slightly different top ten lists.
3. People care way too much about reformulations and batch codes.
I think the reason people care about reformulations so much is because it really sucks when you love a fragrance and finish a bottle, only to try the new bottle and have it smell or perform completely different. Especially since smells are tied to memories, so then it's like that memory was tainted. But if I am trying a new fragrance for the first time, I don't care if it has been reformulated in the past, and I wouldn't skip out on something just because it was reformulated 5 years ago or whatever. Also I don't buy into the theory that reformulations are a cost saving greed/conspiracy thing. Many times one or more ingredients will get regulated and need to be replaced so they can continue selling it.
> Fragrance YouTube is mostly the same recycled content and Fragrantica note breakdowns compiled into slightly different top ten lists.
Yeah, you go look through various channels and it's the same content with different people, but that's an issue you have with a niche interest that has limited scope.
I like wearing cheap scents, I’ll buy body sprays from bath and body works, Victoria’s Secret etc. as long as it smells good to me I don’t care if it’s not high end or expensive, I would rather spend a lot of money on a fragrance I really like
Agreed! There was a lame viral tweet awhile back that said something along the lines of it is immature to wear cheap fragrance over the age of 20. Who cares what it costs as long as it makes you happy? That goes for everything IMO: purses, clothes, food, perfume, cars, jewelry - if it makes you happy and you like it and it’s not hurting anyone, why is it “immature” to enjoy, appreciate, and use something? If anything, it seems immature to be elitist simply because you paid more money. Paying more money doesn’t always equal better quality, and also better quality isn’t always necessary.
Also, I’ve never gotten more compliments on a fragrance than Pure Seduction by VS and also Fancy by Jessica Simpson, scents that are definitely not expensive or particularly complex or elegant. They just smell delicious.
Yes to this. I am going to be 55 on Sunday and I wear whatever I want. Frederic Malle and Bath and Body Works sprays. Target tank tops with Chloe handbags and everything in between. Who cares? I find that so many people are so worried about what others think. Be yourself, be happy, be confident. Do not gauge your self of self-worth by others' opinions of you.
Just recently added a couple bath and body works sprays to my collection on sale, they're pretty great honestly, definitely snagging a few Victoria's Secret at some point.
Agree...not everything has to last for days and be complex. I bought 5 bbw sprays recently and I enjoy them after a shower before bed, watching tv, or gardening.
HOW DARE YOU ENJOY THINGS THAT YOU LIKE!!
My unpopular opinion is probably best fragrances are not necessarily tied to price/designer/house...whatever. There are great fragrances/fragrant products from many places at varying price ranges. The prestige of owning a chanel doesn't make it smell any better (unless you like those smells😉)
Also not an unpopular opinion on these parts, but all fragrances are unisex.
I will agree that I love linear scents and single note scents.
I enjoy the smell of some people at the gym though...but is it creepy if I ask what perfume you are wearing when we spar?😅
No! Please ask!
Iris is an overrated note
Upvoted but huge disagree
Ugh agreed, it’s so powdery and makes me queasy.
Why? Just curious
It typically comes off a bit too powdery for me. I do like DHI (and other Iris heavy designers like Prada L’Homme) quite a bit but often times in niche and indie fragrances, it’s way too potent for me
Performance issues with a fragrance is a non-issue. If you’re that worried about it, just carry a decant and reapply. I would never write off an amazing fragrance just because it only lasts a few hours. Also overspraying is annoying at best and causes people very real discomfort at worst.
I think a lot of people in the hobby use so much strong fragrance 24/7 that their sense of smell is warped compared to the average person. "It's gone in a half hour!" Bullshit. They sound like my spice-loving brother swearing that a food isn't spicy at all while the rest of the table is a snotty, coughing mess.
LOL! Right? Except with fragrance, the wearers keep dumping more spice on EVERYONE's plate ha ha ha!
Thank you, on both counts. These folks spraying 5+ sprays at once are freaking me out! And it makes me sad seeing folks downvote otherwise beautiful scents for "only" lasting three or four hours.
Word to this! I love reapplying thru the day so I can experience the topnotes/evolution again.
Maybe the thing with this issue is that they always think they spend quite some money for a fragrance, that fragrance better lasts all day or it’s just like wasting money for them since they need to keep spraying more and ends up using more fragrance per day.
1. Anything over 7 sprays of anything, even an eau de cologne, is overdoing it.
2. Using fragrance of any kind (traditional fragrance, room spray, sprays for furniture) to mask an odour is gross. Just shower or clean the damn thing. The only exception being scents for the washroom💩
3. Conventional fragrance is likely carcinogenic and not good for health.
4. BR540 and Tuscan Leather are both terrible and I hate them.
7?? I think 3 or 4 sprays is already pushing it, even for the weakest fragrances
Why are people in this sub so conservative when spraying. In what world is 3 sprays over spraying? I know you don’t want to annoy people around you, but no one ever notices mine if I spray less than 3
Not everyone wants to engulf a whole room in their fragrance. Personally, I like an intimate projection. I’d rather no one notice my scent than choking out everyone within 6 feet
What fragrance will choke people in a 6 foot radius with 3 sprays tho?
Tuscan Leather- one of the fragrances mentioned by OP, definitely will. I bought a sample recently and it's very potent, to the point where I only spray once and leave it at that as any more will be overbearing for those in a room with me.
I was exaggerating a little. But fragrances that are typically labeled as “beasts” are too much with 3 sprays like Tom Ford TV and Nishane Hacivat and Ani
Any Mugler scent
They probably notice just fine, they just don't say anything.
Agree 100%, but also sprays are not created equal. I could step in front of a fire hose of most Jo Malones and nobody can smell it an hour later. Also the alcohol/oil ratio makes a big difference in the performance. And the spray size is based off the bottle atomizer and differs greatly from bottle to bottle. I just don't get how people can make blanket statements about how many sprays are acceptable. One spray of a strong oud-based frag is worth a half a bottle of 4711. Plus different fragrances react and project different depending on skin chemistry.
It depends entirely on the scent. In some cases, yeah, three sprays *is* over-spraying, and no amount of fragbro denial will change the fact that other people around you can smell it quite strongly even if you can't. Try three sprays of Mugler Alien and see what I mean. Or, hell, three sprays of Dylan Blue. Trust me, we can smell you from across the room.
Big agree. If I’m wearing Fahrenheit or Tuscan Leather, I’ll be more conservative but most of my everyday wear gets 5 sprays.
I do ONE spray on the wrist and dab them together! Haha then i just smell my wrist all day. But it's more because I prefer a waft of scent vs a cloud, and I have allergies so less is more.
I typically do five max and my skin just absorbs scent. I said 7 because because I was feeling generous.
That’s fine I think. Generally I find the perfumistas in this group tend to be very conservative spritzers. I used to go way overboard with sprays but now I am somewhere In your territory. That said, drink water. No really. Like load yourself up with it before and after a shower and the moisturize your entire body before you do your perfume routine. Might even take it so far as to wait till you get where you’re going to spritz so you aren’t locked in a car with it too. You’ll definitely smell yourself better and the scent will last longer. Ages.
>Using fragrance of any kind (traditional fragrance, room spray, sprays for furniture) to mask an odour is gross. Just shower or clean the damn thing. The only exception being scents for the washroom💩
Please, not even bathroom sprays. Some of us just smell Glade Fancy Grass *and* poop when you do that
Try fabreze air wood! Notes are cedar, amber, and oud. Smells amazing and I think the oud helps masks 💩 odors lol
I’m not for that Glade life either. But a nice luxury reed diffuser or Aesop post-poo drops? I wouldn’t say no to that.
Aesop poo drops are wonderful. Ive never seen them mentioned anywhere else! Anything else smells like air freshener with notes of ass
What’s a conventional fragrance? Isn’t everything carcinogenic these days? Basically pick your poison at this point. lol
Oh we really need to talk about these
1. My perfume is a private pleasure. I am more likely to save my expensive/vintage/rare bottles for a night in where I can sniff their nuances in peace than to wear them out for others to smell.
2. I don't care if a perfume is weak or doesn't last. I only care that it is beautiful.
3. I want to smell interesting more than I want to smell good, even if that means running the risk that someone will think my scent is unpleasant/unattractive.
4. Green perfumes are the most beautiful perfumes. When I try perfumes people complain about as "too green", I'm usually thinking "this would be really nice if only the green notes were stronger".
5. Most perfumes are far too sweet. Most resins are sweet. Many florals have an inherent sweetness. So why drown all that out with sugary notes?
6. Oakmoss is sexy, not dated.
7. Aldehydes are sexy, not dated.
Oakmoss gang! 🔥
I love green fragrances too and I also find many scents way too sweet for my linking. May I ask what your favourite green fragrances are?
Also tagging u/laconfidential91: Ooooh, greens. Soooo so many. For perfumes currently in production, I really like the Hermes line. Modern Amazone, Equipage, and from the Eaux, Eau de Narcisse Bleue and Eau de Gentiane Blanche are quite good. Rogue Perfumery's Tabac Vert and Fougere de l'Aube. Papillon Dryad x1000 (probably my favorite greenie in production today). Eric Buterbaugh Florals Apollo Hyacinth. Joya Foxglove. Profumum Roma Ichnusa. Hans Hendley Mown and Fume. Tom Ford Noir Anthracite. Ralph Lauren Safari for Women. Molinard de Molinard modern. Regime des Fleurs Vines. Amouage Figment Woman and Myths Woman. Aramis New West.
If you're up to hunting down vintages, you'll find some Holy Grails. Balmain Vent Vert parfum (the OG), Balmain Ivoire parfum, Balmain de Balmain parfum. Vintage Pigeut Bandit. Vintage Guerlain Vol de Nuit. Gucci Envy (women's and mens, both masterpieces). Weil de Weil. Gucci III parfum. Hermes Amazone is totally respectable in the modern formula, but the vintage is something ELSE.
I'm right there with you on number 3. I end up loving a lot of "atmospheric" scents, especially fire or smoke adjacent ones. A City On Fire, Oddity, By The Fireplace in theory (too sweet). I would kill for a perfume that smelled exactly like blowing out a jack-o-lantern.
The perks of working from home, I can smell like a wildfire and no one complains.
Alright I like your number 3. This is making me reconsider some things..
1. All fragrances are unisex and all ages
2. Iso e super, ambroxan, cashmeran and the like are gross. I have no problem with synthetic ingredients, but these just smell overwhelmingly synthetic to me. I have no problem with designer scents, but most of them smell overwhelmingly like these ingredients.
3. The classic Guerlains don't smell old ladyish. Today old ladies are boomers who were born 30-60 years after these fragrances came out. The more I explore new fragrances the more I come back to them.
4. This is totally just me being a curmudgeon but PdM is stupid. The fragrances are unremarkable and the bottles are cheesy Vegas-like fake luxury. The hype is irritating. The pricing is ridiculous. Although I'm really happy Quentin Bisch is successful!
I actually never spray on clothes because the scent lingers too long and then I HAVE to wash that shirt even if I only wore it for 2 hours. But I also avoid spraying any where close to my face because it's guaranteed to give me a headache. I do wear a light perfume to the gym but it's for myself so I don't have to smell people's sweat, nobody can smell it unless they're all up in my face.
If you are going to reuse the shirt for another day won't you spray the same scent anyway? I recently trying to reuse my shirts once before laundry because it doesn't matter. Its fkin - 40-50c where i live.
That's the thing, I change scents everyday so I don't get bored
I prefer old-fashioned scents. To me, they smell sophisticated. A lot of the popular ones now smell like little girl perfumes.
Tom Ford's Black Orchid sucks. It's too stinky, and I like Dana's Tabu.
If a perfume doesn't last at least 8 hours, then I'm not gonna bother with it. I'm paying too much money to have it not last a workday.
I agree! I love my 70’s, 80’s and 90’s powerhouses like Opium, Poison, Coco Chanel, Obsession. They are warm and complex but not cloying.
Some stuff today is too sweet for me and I thought we were slowly moving out of that sugary phase. Guess not because Ariana Grande’s Cloud has a popcorn note that smells to me like sickly stale vomit on dry down. I’m sorry I know this is so loved and I’m gonna get hate for it - it may be just my nose but to me smells like sweatshirt you were lounging in all day and spilled desert on so it’s a mix of body odor and sugar. Or like the day after the night out where you still smell like last night’s perfume mixed with sweat and stickiness from dancing and you need to shower.
Could be just me being in my 30’s and sugary scents don’t do it for me like they did in my earlier years. But I will take spicy over sweet nowadays.
Black Orchid is nasty. Some time ago I opened a tester at Sephora just to sniff the sprayer and the saccharine funk clung to my hand for hours.
1. Assigning a "gender" to a fragrance is a useful guidepost to steer the average consumer and until someone comes up with a better way to roughly classify things it's the best we've come up with. If I see a fragrance marketed towards women it gives me a very rough idea where it falls on the spectrum of fragrances, it doesn't mean as a man I'm not allowed to wear it. Anyone who gives someone shit about enjoying things typical of another gender isn't worth listening to.
2. If you you don't like a very popular fragrance there is zero need to post about it on the internet. You are very much not alone in your opinion and are just as circle-jerky as the people who constantly rave about things. I hate tons of very popular stuff, but I STFU about it because don't need to add to the hype or points for being an edgy contrarian.
3. "Sweet" is the the last thing I would ever want to smell like.
4. Anyone who sells samples only in dabber vials and/or less than 1oz should be boycotted. I have such a hard time buying from luckyscent but they're too often the only place I can find samples of things. Also, screw decanters who charge half the price of a full bottle for a decant that is 1/10th or less the size.
5. I would never pay a red cent more for a better presentation if I didn't have to. I would rather have a generic bottle wrapped in bubble wrap if I could get it cheaper. Boxes go in the recycling, bottles sit in a cabinet behind closed doors. I'll be damned if I'd voluntarily pay more for the <1 minute a day I *might* spend looking at it.
I agree with your first two points 100%
1. Gender in fragrance is not only ridiculous, but should be actively combated. More guys need to wear fragrance explicitly marketed as feminine.
2. If people other than fume-heads can recognize what you're wearing, you're doing it wrong. You're the feature; the fragrance is an accessory.
3. If a normal human can smell a man beyond 10 feet, the scented man is a nuisance.
4. Most popular men's fragrance is banal trash. This includes BdC, Sauvage, TdH, everything in the Replica line, everything by Boss, and a significant number of Creeds (especially GIT).
>Gender in fragrance is not only ridiculous, but should be actively combated. More guys need to wear fragrance explicitly marketed as feminine.
Huh? Why need?
Yea, I was with them until the "need" part. People should wear what they want and be happy. The idea that they need to wear something they may not like in order to separate gendered fragrances is worse than the idea of gendered fragrances. I think if every fragrance was listed as unisex, my preferences would still be the same as they are now.
Definitely with you on 1 and that goes beyond fragrances too. There’s so many things that have pointlessly been gendered. Why the hell am I not ‘supposed’ to smell like flowers? Screw that noise, they smell great!
Agreed on all points.
Which men’s fragrance do you like or would recommend? Genuinely curious
I tend to gravitate toward spicy orientals (industry term, not mine) and things that are either unique or just really well-crafted (ideally both). Today I wore [Korrigan by Lubin](https://www.basenotes.net/ID26136908.html), which is a boozy woody scent. Others that stand out off the top of my head are the sadly discontinued [Kiste by Slumberhouse](https://www.basenotes.net/ID26145624.html), [Mortal Skin by Stephane Humbert Lucas 777](https://www.basenotes.net/ID26147311.html), and [Ormande Man by Ormande Jayne](https://www.basenotes.net/ID26124176.html). For more mainstream stuff, I dig [Fleur du Mal by Jean Paul Gaultier](https://www.basenotes.net/ID26126546.html), [Mugler Cologne by Thierry Mugler](https://www.basenotes.net/ID26120382.html), and [The One EDP by Dolce & Gabbana](https://www.basenotes.net/ID26147634.html). Plus lots of other stuff. I’m actually not as picky as the post makes me sound; I was just offering up my “controversial” hot takes.
>Most popular men's fragrance is banal trash. This includes BdC, Sauvage, TdH, everything in the Replica line, everything by Boss, and a significant number of Creeds (especially GIT).
One of these things is not like the others. One of these things *just doesn't belong.*
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Just because a scent is popular Dosent make it bad....not everyone wants to hunt down a 1 of 1 scent that NOONES ever heard of
I seem to dislike most fragrances marketed for men, though naturally there are exceptions. In my fantasy world everyone would smell of flowers, vanilla, sweet orientals etc...
I like wearing linear scents too (I also like to admire the artistry involved in creating fragrances which evolve over time, but mostly from afar).
I don't enjoy smelling the classic fragrances from Guerlain.
I also suspect that opinions such as these aren't *that* uncommon...
This may not be too unpopular, but I really enjoy dated drugstore fragrances. Stetson, Brut, Drakkar, all good in my book. They remind me of when I was a kid. Even if I don't wear them day-to-day they're nice to have around.
I still like Old Spice, reminds me of Grandad.
>Wearing a fragrance to a gym should be a federal crime... No, it doesn't hide the sweat - it just amplifies the assault on everyone's sense of smell.
[Microwaving fish at work is a personality defect](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH1byYD0D7o)
Endless pissing matches over batch numbers are something I'll never understand, full stop.
I never use more than one spray of anything. I really dislike strong projection - I only want people to notice if they're inside my personal bubble :)
One spray gang. I've never sampled a single fragrance that needed more than one, but I've tried plenty where 1 was too much.
Just reading about people using 3+ sprays makes me feel like I need to open a window.
They seriously think *we're* the crazy ones for not drenching ourselves. Sirs, I can smell you from behind my keyboard.
I rub the top notes "off" on some frags. Sorry, not sorry. I just sometimes want the full blend, not wait for it to develop and settle. I just don't like some perfumes' top notes although I really love the fragrance.
But wait, that’s illegal!
What is meant by “rubbing the top notes off”?
I assume they mean physically rubbing the scent after spraying. It’s highly frowned upon in the fragrance world to do this since it “ruins” the different layers of notes
Fully agree, sometimes you want to move things along.
1. People who wear 3/4 sprays are too paranoid. If you wear that little and complain about performance you are doing it yourself. How are people supposed to smell you?
2. People pigeonhole fragrances way too much. This is a clubbing scent only, this is a datenight fragrance, this is for the office etc. Nobody will arrest you if you wear a scent to a different ocasion. Only because one reviewer said you cant wear eros to the office doesnt make it a law.
3. Basing fragrance choises off ladies reactions is pointless, they all have different tastes. Just wear what you like. Wearing your favorite fragrance gives you more confidence and makes people compliment faster than when you cherry pick a fragrance solely on ladies reactions.
With 2, yeah it’s ultimately up to you, but IMO some are more appropriate for certain environments than others. Something fresh and citrusy is more appropriate for the office than a dark oud or musk, and the opposite is true for a sexy date night with your other half. But that’s entirely my personal opinion.
I hate Ombre leather and why is Tom ford's prices all jacked up everybody knows production cost is $10
It's the only Ford I've tried and it's made me not want to try any others (also the price :P)
I like storing my fragrances in the bathroom. Been doing so for years. Same bottles since 2013 have been stored there and still smell the same. Plus not everyone has the “perfect temperature cool and dark faux wine cellar” storage option. If i kept my house that cool my electric/AC would be 60F and astronomically expensive.
Fruity sweet or gourmand sweet scents are so gross. Why would I want to smell like a Cinnabon that’s been on a heater for 2 hours when I can smell like lemons or flowers.
Speaking of lemons, freshies are the best year round option. (This is more unpopular in the “fragcomm” than irl.) You just can’t beat a refreshing citrus whether it’s 100F or 50F out. Shit’s the bomb.
I can’t wait for green and aromatic scents to take over the gourmand phase. It’s been nearly three decades since Angel came out, and while I love the scent on occasion, it’s time to move on to bigger and better things.
YES to the fresh/ green/ aromatic comment! Most gourmands sicken me; they're so heady and cloying, and often gourmand lovers tend to massively overestimate how much they need to use...
My controversial opinion is that individual chemistry has no bearing on fragrance. I’ve never found a familiar scent unrecognizable, or remotely different, on different wearers. Chanel no 5, for example, smells identical on everyone.
I mean I don't know if that's an opinion since it's demonstrably false.
Is there a source for this? I am genuinely curious how it works
I don’t know if there are double blind random sample published scientific studies proving this but individuals do have different body heat, ph acidity levels, moisture levels, oil levels, surface bacteria etc, so individual chemistry should affect fragrance to some degree.
I agree that all the factors you mentioned should have a considerable effect on the perfume and how they perform on the skin but I wonder if such nuanced changes can be detected by the average human nose.
I agree. Where are the #receipts? As far as I know, it’s mostly affected by the presence of oils on the skin. Different parts of the body have varying percentages of oil and hydration, ymmv, etc etc
Honestly, I read a book on the technical side of perfumery once, and it literally said that the "skin chemistry" thing is a myth perpetuated by the industry because people like to think that fragrance has this individual variability to it.
That said...I honestly don't know. It was quite a factual and science-heavy book, to the point I found it quite boring (which is why I no longer remember the bloody title, argh). Which made me inclined to take the book's statement about skin chemistry as fact. But OTOH, literally every other source I've seen claims skin chemistry *does* affect how a fragrance smells on a person. So idk.
I do find that the same fragrance can smell a bit different on me (over time) depending on where I spray it, which makes me think that someone with warmer, oilier skin may well find a fragrance wears differently on them than it does on a person with drier, cooler skin. That sort of thing. \*shrugs\*
My husband likes Declaration by Cartier. Smells great on him. On me, however, I want to gag. BO city.
1. Heavy fragrances, which make up most of my collection, can be worn throughout the year, not just when it's cool out. I just spray less during the summer. The one exception would be the gym, where I think it's fine to wear fragrance but only lighter scents.
2. I have never sprayed my clothes - while I get why some do I don't think I ever will, and not just because some of my fragrances (Slumberhouse) would stain! I like how scents change due to skin chemistry, and I've noticed a bunch of my fragrances are livelier on my skin. And it's cool that some take on a new character when my partner wears them!
3. I almost exclusively spray on my chest, though I'll sometimes include my wrists as well. I feel the chest is the best place to spray when you want to enjoy the scent yourself - you don't get olfactory fatigue/nose blind to it like when you spray your neck, you get wafts of the scent throughout the day, and some of it rubs onto your shirt helping it last longer. Projection can be somewhat lower than when you spray your neck, but considering I have mostly heavy fragrances it doesn't cause any issues.
\#1 - yesyesyes. anything can be delicious ANY time of year if you know how to use it.
People who say “panty dropper” *cringe*
I like a lot of modern reformulations. I don't care that it doesn't smell like the OG. Sometimes I even like it better.
I loath Chanel no. 5
Bottle design can be a deal breaker or a deal maker. I would love to own a Memo perfume simply because the bottle is a piece of art and the fragrances are nice and wearable. Is it worth $300? Probably not.
Otoh I will never buy anything from CdG or Moschino because the bottles are impractical (CdG) and ugly as sin / would make me ashamed to display them (Moschino)
I have a lot of niche and high end designer perfume—probably like 15 bottles and a lot more decants, all of which have been very curated but I also really love the cheap stuff. I feel less burdened by collecting mallcore stuff since it’s so affordable. It’s also nice for layering and improves longevity on some perfumes.
I fuckin love Bath and Bodyworks, Demeter, Philosophy, Victoria’s Secret etc. I mean, obviously not all of it is great, but sometimes I just want to smell like a strawberry shortcake doll or a fantasy rainstorm. Honestly, when men compliment me it’s usually on something from Bath and Bodyworks too. Cashmere Glow and Pretty as a Peach seem to be crowd pleasers.
I skip a lot of mid-range designer gourmands and freshies and opt for BBW or Victoria’s Secret instead—leaves me feeling less bad about having a big collection of fragrances to pick from and it allows me to save up for expensive ones that I really, really like.
Plus, some of those body sprays legit last longer on me than $250 perfume.
People say not to shake your fragrances. I always shake mine. Been doing it for years and it's never done a damn thing. Good or bad.
what do you shake it for tho?
Shaking liquids is fun, I don't know what to tell ya.
Huh what’s their argument?
That it introduces oxygen into the bottle and causes the fragrance to break down sooner or some shit like that. Nonsense if you ask me.
Are these the same people who decry shaking a martini because it "bruises the gin"? We have a word for those people.
1. Very few perfumes are actually unwearable. Something being not to your taste does not make it "unwearable". People who call normal perfumes unwearable are timid and boring.
2. I roll my eyes at men who insist that their scent-in-a-bottle be called "fragrance" rather than "perfume" because they're worried wearing perfume will make them less manly.
3. I don't understand the point of blind buying. I also don't understand the people who post asking which of two completely different perfumes they should buy. Buy whichever you like the smell of best, nobody on this sub can tell you which one that is.
My unpopular opinion is that people like you who have such awesome input should join my community too at r/femfraglab ♥️♥️♥️
I over spray and people on reddit hate it... People around me LOVE IT. lol I don't over spray like too much but JUST enough. I hit the sweet spot 😅
TIL about that subreddit! Joined!
I love aqua Di gio 🤷🏻♀️
Oh goody, I have a few.
1.) I usually apply three sprays to my neck. Dunno how other people apply their fragrances, but three sprays to the neck allows me to smell my fragrance all day. I hardly ever spray my wrists or anywhere else for that matter.
2.) The price often isn't indicative of "quality" (how do you measure the quality of perfume?). I've quickly realized that I am not a snob about this stuff. I have amassed quite a few cheap fragrances that I love just as much as my pricier perfumes. I've sampled a few extremely expensive (+$400/bottle) perfumes at this point and I am usually unimpressed with them. There are plenty of exceptions to this of course, houses like Amouage, Histoires De Parfums, Serge Lutens... they're worth the extra $$$.
3.) The term "niche" means absolutely nothing to me. Well I guess that isn't entirely true. At this point "niche" = expensive fragrance in the same way that "luxury" = expensive status symbols and "gourmet" = expensive food.
4.) My right to wear perfume doesn't end at your nose. If ever I meet someone who has an allergy (this has never happened to me before) I'd of course stop wearing fragrance when in close proximity to them. There are plenty of things that other people do that I don't like, but I don't expect the world to cater to my sensibilities. I think this mentality is dying because it seems to me that most people disagree with me on this point. I'd honestly prefer someone come up to me and tell me they hate my perfume and ask me to stop wearing it then see that person passively-agressively try to enact a fragrance free policy. Maybe I'm less afraid of confrontation than most people.
Edit: decided to add some more
5.) At this point gendering fragrances feels a bit silly. However fragrances are marketed by gender because by and large people want to be perceived as & feel either masculine or feminine. Pay no mind to what others think and wear whatever you enjoy wearing, that's confidence and confidence is the most attractive trait.
6.) Most modern perfumes for women are sickeningly sweet and I can't stand them, they give me a headache. I've resorted to purchasing older perfumes that lack sugary notes. I hope in the 2020s we go in the opposite direction, I'd love to see an influx of citrusy green/aromatic fragrances.
7.) Most of the popular masculines I've sampled don't smell nice at all (Sauvage et al), they smell really harsh and unpleasant. I must not like Ambroxan.
Most Tom Fords are just not good. Black or Velvet Orchid, Noir por Femme, Leather ?, F*ckin Fabulous, Bitter Peach, etc. The only two I like are Soilei Blanc and Plum Japónaise.
Kilian- same thing, I just am not a fan of the dna and haven’t found one that I like. From the cheaper ones to Phantom, Love, etc. I just don’t get these two houses. The descriptions are amazing but don’t live up to the hype. People love them though.
Ariana Grande’s fragrances are way too overhyped and they all have this nauseating synthetic opening🤢🤢
I dislike most fragrances!
People who let reviews and god forbid, Youtubers, dictate which fragrances they get and like are moronic. You like what you like, and if it makes you happy, WEAR IT. The more criticism I see regarding a fragrance, the more I'm drawn to it. Fragrance is an extension to your personality... why are you trying to copy someone else's??
I don’t think the gym opinion is controversial or unpopular. Some people do ask what to wear but almost all responses are some variation of “don’t wear anything”.
But I agree with you on the first two points. I only began to spray on wrists because I wanted to be able to really easily smell my fragrance, but if it’s my signature scent I don’t need to do that.
My thoughts on it are that "gym scents" should mean something sporty - something you can wear doing something active - rather than something you literally wear to the gym (although I do see people say they do just that).
Keeping my bottles in the bathroom cabinet (exposed to *gasp* humidity) will have zero impact on them.
Beach Hut Man by Amouage smells fucking horrendous; it's dominated by a metallic mint note that assaults your sense of smell, inevitably causing a headache after an hour or so. I have no idea how it's supposed to be wearable when it hits you like a punch to the face- it's considered a summer scent but if you combine this fragrance with the heat of a summer's day you're going to send people around you running.
A lot of people here seem to love it for some reason though, I guess my nose is too sensitive for Middle Eastern fragrances.
One fragrance is enough. Just find one that you love and wear the hell out of it. No one needs to accumulate decades worth of perfume that for the most part will stay untouched.
For a decade I was blissfully happy wearing one signature perfume.
If I hadn’t stumbled into this sub back in December, I still would be.
To play devil’s advocate though:
Perfumery is an art. Fragrance can have a profound, transportive effect on the wearer. If there weren’t patrons supporting perfumers, we wouldn’t have the unprecedented range of fragrance we enjoy. This has to be the Golden Age of perfume in terms of range of expression.
It’s a bit like how having a zillion TV channels with “niche” channels like HBO brought about the Golden Age of TV — and for that to happen, it required some people to pay for those extra channels.
Not everyone. (I’ve never even purchased a TV.) But people passionate about it supported the industry’s ability to create some true art pieces, from Band of Brothers to The Sopranos.
Fragrance is like that. There are perfumers creating art pieces (some avant garde) and there are collectors who support their art. No different than any other form of art.
Would you say the same about how many paintings a person should own?
Fragrances are gendered, not in the sense that I think certain notes smell feminine or masculine intrinsically, but because society perceives them as so. If you can wear a super fruity floral scent as a guy and be 100% comfortable, power to you, but it's unlikely to change the fact that people think it smells feminine.
Very novice question but what is meant by a linear fragrance?
A scent that doesn't really progress in any way as you wear it.
It smells basically the same when you spray it on as it does hours later.
Scents that smell the same from the moment you spray them till the completely disaster. This is the opposite of fragrances with a fragrance pyramid where there are dedicated top notes (usually last < 10 minutes), middle notes (last for a few hours), and base notes (what you can smell in the drydown by the end of the day).
It smells the same way on your skin from when you first spray it to when it’s gone. Some fragrances change after applied because certain ingredients fade away faster than others.
The frag youtubers lie and exaggerate compliments and they dont happen nearly as much as they say. Ill get maybe 1 a week, but its not all the time like they like to give off.
People tend to fucking hoard like crazy, me included.
Fuck, do I really need 16 bottles of perfume? Nah. Do I want it? Yeah
Dang. Well argued. 👍
Dark Temptation smells good. I also like the smell of Curve.
Oud & Dark Vanilla is best one from Axe in smell quality (although still a fake scent ofc) . Smells least artificial and smells very similar to Tom Ford Noir.
Honestly most lynx stuff smells good, it’s just ruined by 12 year old boys spraying half a bottle rather than showering.
1. I'm a guy and I love how some perfumes market for women smell. Give me those vanilla, sweet floral, and watermelon scents!
2. Musk and dry scents are good in smaller doses.
3. I blend my fragrances together in an atomizer to combine scents to achieve a better balance.
I absolutely love the smell of skunks (not up close) and slow down and open the car windows when i see a skunk up ahead on the road.
I hate when people apply their perfume in indoor spaces right next to other people, like on a bus or sitting next you in an office. It feels like a sudden assault on my nose