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plantbasedface

Per Biossance: “We wanted to chime in to provide an official answer to this - Biossance will not be selling in mainland China or in brick and mortar stores which allows us to bypass any animal testing and remain true to our cruelty-free and vegan values. 💚”


squids839

If that happens, Biossance would not be considered cruelty-free by many definitions because of the animal testing requirements in China.


Ophelia_Rabbit

That’s what I don’t understand. They market themselves as a vegan company. How can they be vegan if they’re not cruelty free?


blueridgewildflower

Vegan technically only means that there are no animal derived ingredients in the products. From my understanding, a brand can have vegan products and still test on animals sadly. For example: garnier has a vegan formula shampoo, but garnier is not a cruelty free company.


Ophelia_Rabbit

From an ethical view, veganism excludes cruelty to animals. So an ethical vegan would not buy garnier’s shampoo, regardless of the label.


blueridgewildflower

I agree with you 100%, which is why I disagree with brands using the term Vegan when they infact still test on animals. I was just explaining the technicality they use to try and trick consumers into purchasing their products. It's deceitful, but it works. I got into an argument with a girl I know regarding this once.


BiossanceOfficial

We wanted to chime in to provide an official answer to this - Biossance will not be selling in mainland China or in brick and mortar stores which allows us to bypass any animal testing and remain true to our cruelty-free and vegan values. 💚


Ophelia_Rabbit

Great news! Didn’t want to have to give up one of my favorite brands. Thanks!!


mrshobutt

Correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I've read on sites such as crueltyfreekitty, companies can bypass the animal testing law in China if they sell only in HongKong/Macau and/or sell only online (that's what brands like FentyBeauty do). Whether that means you wanna still support the brand or not, is probably up to everyone individually.


meowscara

Yes, the only way to truly bypass animal testing in China is to sell online only. Hong Kong and Macau are also not a part of mainland China and they don't share the mandatory animal testing laws. So, if a company like Biossance were to open up a store in Hong Kong and sell to mainland China online only, they would still be 100% cruelty-free.


Ophelia_Rabbit

Not an expert, but there are definitely ways to bypass animal testing, as you suggested. However, the article on Biossance specifically addressed entering the greater China market. Sounds like selling directly. Hope I’m wrong.


Ophelia_Rabbit

Just a side note-neither Fenty Skin or Fenty Beauty are certified as cruelty free. They are in the grey zone for failing to give detailed responses to cruelty free groups like CFK and LH.


meowscara

Most likely, they will only sell in China online, which would mean that there's no animal testing. I doubt Biossance will compromise their ethics and Leaping Bunny certification, although it's possible. Hoping for the best.


Ophelia_Rabbit

Me too! It’s one of my favorite brands.