DC League of Super Pets: First Look
By - ab316_1punchd
I *knew* Kevin Hart would be Ace as soon as The Rock was announced as Krypto. I really enjoy the friendship they’ve cultivated
Still see WarnerMedia cannot hire any brilliant guru for advertising cuz idk if this was a sneak peek but WB has no flair when it comes to advertising or marketing.
This is a sneak peek, and looks fine to me.
Gotta say kinda skeptical about Kevin Hart as Ace. Ace is supposed to be like Batman, yeah? Except comically serious and sullen, basically a parody of Batman. Kevin’s usual zany style doesn’t quite seem to suit him. Would he not be a better fit for, say, Streaky?
Didn’t you watch him in secret life of pets?? He was iconic gave me bugs bunny vibes.
Snydercult: DC is better than Marvel because it's for adults, rather than catered to families and kids!
“dC’s TrYiNg To CaTeR tO KiDdY mArVeL fAnS cUz ThEy dOn’T uNdErStAnD aCtUaL sToRiEs ThAt ArEn’T jUsT aLl JoKeS”
Perhaps the biggest counterpoint to this is that Marvel have a bigger share of popular 'dark' and 'adult' characters than DC.
Marvel - Wolverine, Punisher, Deadpool, Daredevil, Ghost Rider, Helstorm, Satana, Mephisto, Carnage, Bullseye, Blade, Morbius, Superior Spider-Man, Venom, Hulk, Hank Pym, Cloak, Dagger, Dark Avengers
DC - Batman, John Constantine, The Question, Swamp Thing, Etrigan, Atrocitus, Spectre, Lobo, Raven, Red Hood, Black Adam, Watchmen
The thing is, if you dig really deep, they would probably end up having equal amounts of 'dark' or 'adult' content. DC also has a whole range of darker stuff from the Vertigo side of things, including Preacher, the House of Mystery, all of the Endless, iZombie, even the Sweet Tooth comic is apparently 10x darker than the Netflix show. In fact I'm not sure if a lot of these are even in the same league as some of the more violent mutants or Spider-Man characters. We had X-men games and Spider-Man games that centred around Venom and Carnage when I was a kid. Can't say that I ever saw a Preacher game though, not for kids.
The issue isn't really what's dark or not. It's that people seem to be confusing 'dark' with edgy / violent / has lots of swear words. A lot of the darker DC stuff *is* edgy / violent / has swearing / even some nudity but it is actually so much more. It's not about Batman killing goons with a minigun, it's about the themes and well crafted stories that aren't just about black and white like most traditional superhero comics.
And unfortunately, Snyder seems to be one of these people that thinks 'dark' is just evil Superman and murderous Batman without any actual substance to it. It's 'dark' but childish at the same time.
Edit: just take X-Men versus Doom Patrol for example. One is a group of misfits living in a mansion, led by a man in a wheelchair, getting up to classic superhero shenanigans, facing a populous that is anti-mutant along the way, with a couple of more hardcore (but still mostly child friendly) characters thrown into the mix. The other is a group of misfits living in a mansion, led by a man in a wheelchair, trying not to fuck up all the time, dealing with issues of sexuality, abuse, childhood trauma and more while the bureau of normalcy tries to sanitize the world and rid it of anything that doesn't follow their puritanical guidelines.
Similar stories (in the fact the Doom Patrol creator even claims that the idea of X-Men was stolen) but one has been around the form of cartoons and games for kids while the other one only recently got an HBO Max show that is most certainly aimed at adults.
I haven't touched Vertigo for a reason. Most of the Vertigo stuff are pretty much disconnected from the mainstream DC universe, so they should be counted as a separate matter entirely.
Some of the biggest proponents of "DC is dark in general" stuff have a highly misguided perception of the mainstream DC being all dark.
To me, the main experience of these people must have been mass exposure to Batman and the New 52 comics. The Snyderverse people being foremost proponents. There was a moderately upvoted picture of Darkseid looking around in Batcave while Superman holds a decaying Lois (with colour grading resembling the grotesque art movement) which was described as "encompassing everything DC".
That being said, you are absolutely right. And in the end both Marvel and DC have their fair share of light and dark characters.
Yeah it's definitely dumb and uninformed to think of DC particularly as the "dark one". They own most of the OG archetypes that spawned decades worth of kid's material and inspired other comic companies to start up and do the same. I'd say that they're more the "all encompassing one" purely because they have decades worth of basically all the forms comics have ever taken, from cheesy Superheroes to horror.
Not to mention we only have Frank Miller’s Batman because first we had Frank Miller’s Daredevil.
While Miller revitalised Batman sales , I would not consider Miller as the man who made Batman dark and gritty. It was the contribution of both Neal Adams and Dennis O'Neil who tried to return Batman to his more noir roots. Adams in particular was quite influential.for Batman as he was the one who introduced rogues such as Ra's
Yeah, the modern characterisation of Batman has O'Neil's influence all over him.
To be fair you are kinda leaving the Vertigo books behind. The Vertigo Stories in general were really dark and mythical
I'm leaving the Vertigo books behind for a reason (although I have included John Constantine and Swamp Thing). Because a lot of them are either standalone stuff (V for Vendetta, A History of Violence, Sweet Tooth, Preacher, Y: The Last Man etc) or extension/alternative of the DC universe characters in their own world (The Sandman, Hellblazer, Jonah Hex: Shadows West, Swamp Thing etc).
The biggest proponents of the "DC is dark" stuff (the Snyderverse people AND those who think DC is just Batman) seem to think that the whole mainstream DC is dark. It's just a misinformed take.
Except the Batman, Justice League Dark and Vertigo side of things (which shouldn't count, that's a separate beast), DC has been anything but dark. Not to mention, Batman went through a light hearted Silver Age phase.
There it is. Irrelevant post inserting snyder into another unrelated post
You guys are fucking obsessed
No one could get a whiney Snydercultist to shut up for years, since BvS. I'm pretty sure they can deal with it.
On behalf of everyone, I apologise a bit. That being said, at least we have a more diverse set of posts than Cinematic, I guess...
And you're allowed to comment anything here. Provided there isn't a history baggage (as has been with some visitors from the Cinematic sub who then go on to badmouth us) so that we can discuss better.