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Betrayal!

Betrayal!

Royal-Ad-8228

Nasus: Nerf buried Shurima, Betrayal revived it.


RyufBoi

Now im just confused to why this isn't a card yet


Arcane10101

Tbf, it is a bit situational. Absorb Soul and Glimpse Beyond have inherent benefits for killing your own units, and don't require you to have a second, stronger unit. In order for this to make the cut, you need to play units that care about striking, which, granted, isn't too difficult, but it limits the number of decks that could potentially use it.


RyufBoi

Ye My point is: it's a very simple concept and has some degree of interaction. It feels like something they would use for a card. Thank you for explaining me why a cost 1: do nothing ain't good on it's own


Arcane10101

Oh, I think it’s a good concept to start with. Maybe a unit that gets betrayed by the unit it supports, or if it’s still a spell, give the striking unit some buffs. I was just making the point that it‘s not going to look exactly like this.


RyufBoi

This was salty


lolok234678936

I don't feel like this can ever get enough value to be a standalone card. SI also does not have strikes. But cool and simple idea. The flavor and mechanics probably makes more sense in Bilgewater while the gameplay concept makes more sense for SI.


Waterstealer

>SI dies not have strikes what about the SI dragons?


lolok234678936

Yeah that's true, not entirely sure how I would classify those.


PaintedBlou

I would classify those as strikes just as much as this card is.


DubiousDubbie

Might be really good in an Undying deck, who knows.


HairyKraken

this should cost atleast 6 to be balanced EDIT: SRY I MISSREAD I THOUGHT IT WAS A ENEMY UNIT ONTO AN ENEMY UNIT


Balenar

The hell? Having one of your own units strike another one of your units is a purely negative effect that SI might sometimes be able to turn to it’s advantage, why on earth would that need to be higher costed than most removal spells?


ZAW4RD0

It's not a removal spell It's a combo piece.The sposts where this card Is good are very rare.And Why 6 when there Is crumble Witch Is way bettet


Balenar

Yes, which is why i was saying it was ridiculous to price it higher than effective removal spells


ZAW4RD0

Maybe i misunderstood the card and you can make an oppositing unit strike another oppositing unit.Maybe the working can be tweaked


Balenar

What? allies refers to friendly units from the casters perspective so it’s only usable to strike friendlies, wording needs no changes


ZAW4RD0

So It isn't a removal because you can't damage opponent's unit


Balenar

Yes? I never claimed it was a removal spell, i am confused


ZAW4RD0

No Sorry i'm dumb


AQUILASSS

Are you out of your mind


SuperKonsti

You afraid to get wet


Zol6199

Should be Bildgewater


Ehhhfilmiki

even with draw 1 would be fucking bad, playable in few certain and very bad thmeselves decks


Tmv655

It's be a great card if it was generate by another card


Ehhhfilmiki

No, you'd need to use this card in this specific deck like Lucian Senna or idk, Caitlyn something i have no idea to be honest in which deck this effect would be worth paying even slight attention to i mean mby akshan? its 2 procs after all, or mby Taric for fast level up? i honestly have no fucking idea


IronBrew16

Nasus likes it! Pyke likes it a little for levelling him up but that's not really a problem thanks to Bone Skewer. Vi maybe? I've always wanted to run Vi in a region where she can punch everything she sees.


UltimateSupremeMemer

My “play 5 chump units the moment I draw Vi” deck would go great with this


Ehhhfilmiki

you dont need to support these champions with new cards, lmao


Tmv655

Shyvana Viego decks love it


Emergency-Ad2738

This could be good on the undying and viego i think on viego if its good


JackWasHere69

Maybe you could make this nocks, i think it would fit in reputation


Chirasma

Does this help Sennas support (count as spell slay). I don't know if single combat did


Bobalo126

Strikes don't count as spell slay


Chirasma

Thanks


AuthorTheGenius

Sus


Print-Sure

Could be good if it was 0 mana or 1 mana "if x happened you also get y"


Sad-Zookeepergame275

I think this should be burst