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adotmatrix

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AhmedF

> Our results indicate that for the first post-pandemic interval evaluated (i.e., March 2020 - February 2021), suicide rates in Canada decreased against a background of extraordinary public health measures intended to mitigate community spread of COVID-19. An externality of public health measures was a significant rise in national unemployment rates in population measures of distress. Our results suggest that government interventions that broadly aim to reduce measures of insecurity (i.e., economic, housing, health), and timely psychiatric services, should be prioritised as part of a national suicide reduction strategy, not only during but after termination of the COVID-19 pandemic.


forward5467

Welcome information but there is a narrative going around that this “proves” lockdowns and school closures do not have a negative impact on mental health. Mental health issues are almost certainly severely underreported during the pandemic as the supports simply are not there. The extreme of suicide isn’t the best metric in determining mental well being


AhmedF

Data that agrees with *your* viewpoint: flawless Data that does not:


forward5467

I agree with the data, as I said I’m happy that less people are dying. But people are using this to dismiss the mental health problems caused by the pandemic, lockdowns, school closures etc. for example from the UK: https://adc.bmj.com/content/106/8/791 > During the UK lockdown, children’s depression symptoms have increased substantially, relative to before lockdown. The scale of this effect has direct relevance for the continuation of different elements of lockdown policy, such as complete or partial school closures. From the US: https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/the-implications-of-covid-19-for-mental-health-and-substance-use/ >During the pandemic, about 4 in 10 adults in the U.S. have reported symptoms of anxiety or depressive disorder, a share that has been largely consistent, up from one in ten adults who reported these symptoms from January to June 2019 (Figure 1). So just because suicides aren’t up doesn’t mean mental health isn’t taking a significant toll


AhmedF

Except it's complicated and people like you keep reducing it to "it's all bad!" - https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2787481 - https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34785528/ (here's *Ontario* data on mental health)


forward5467

I’m not saying “it’s all bad” as I said suicides being down is a good thing. From the study you cited: >This may be expected for stimulant use as a result of school closures during this period. Moreover, in-person physician visit restrictions may have impeded the ability to diagnose and start new prescriptions during this period. Interestingly, a trending increase in antidepressant use above prepandemic rates in the last quarter of 2020 was observed. This could reflect an increase in new-onset depression or anxiety in this population during this period. Prevalence rates demonstrated statistically nonsignificant similar trends


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