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Who (in your opinion) is the most overrated band, singer or musician?

Who (in your opinion) is the most overrated band, singer or musician?

The_Incredible_Honk

Mark Forster (in Germany) Played up and down all the local radio stations for years but I can't remember a single song because they're all so forgettable.


DubioserKerl

Menschen, Leben, Tanzen, Welt!


ppejic

Oh eoo oh


BIG_GAY_HOMOSEXUAL

Killer tofuuuuu


Oddishoderso

Heres a formula for German pop music: Write about the passing of time against the concept of everyday life. This can be anything from a major break from the "Alltag" all the way to a full-on return to it. Love can be your gateway to this topic as a breakup can mean the end of normal every day life. Or you can write about memories with your friends and how everything has changed except their feelings for each other. Everything revolves around time.


hardypart

All of them. Fucking German pop music these days.


boRp_abc

MENSCHEN. LEBEN. TANZEN. WELT. Thing is, German pop (aside from 'indie' type bands) is 100% industry made. Market research, writing teams, market tests... From Helene Fischer to Toten Hosen, it's the same people doing the same stuff over and over and over. Booooring


Remarkable_Regret_80

I feel like every time I go back and turn on the car radio it gets worse


IgnitedMoose

Insert here: Max Giesinger Adel Tawil Andreas Bourani Wincent Weiss


Oberst_Schnitzel

I was so surprised to learn that there are like 5 different artists sounding exactly like Mark Forster and it's not him playing non stop on the radio


Hashebe

If you look at the details of the song, like for example who wrote them, they are mostly the same people.


el_cattivo_

WER FRIERT UNS DIESEN MOMENT EIN


Substantial_Web_3924

BESSER KANN ES NICHT SEINNNN


rook_armor_pls

This is not the answer I expected at the top, but I wholeheartedly agree. And while we're at it, don't forget [Max Giesinger.](https://youtu.be/nFfu2xDJyVs)


order65

I'm looking slightly like him (similar glasses, beard and sometimes I wear a similar black and green Snapback cap). I've heard "Hey, did you know you look like Mark Forster?" at least a dozen times. It gets old fast, he pretty much looks like every average guy in his 30s.


WhiteHydra1914

Don't normally listen to him, only song I can remember is Au Revoir. Then I did listen to a couple of songs of him, and had to ask a friend who listens to him more frequently, why every song sounds the same


pioneerpatrick

Mark Foster ist das Globoli der Musik


realultralord

He even looks substitutable.


Sicmundusdeletur

You made me google how he looks and only when I saw the pictures I remembered that I saw his face several times before but it's just not memorable enough.


d4vros

I did not expect to open this thread and see Mark Forster be the top comment, but goddamn, you are right.


Elaurin34

For real... And most of his songs are like worse versions of other songs. Like "Bauch und Kopf" sounds like a kids version of "Herz über Kopf"


neosithlord

Have you ever noticed how the biggest bands that didn't break up or have a main performer die just, at a certain point, stop writing new songs? I'd say they remained legendary because they knew when to stop and ride the wave. Just my two cents.


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cimmerianmuse

Heck, Elton John is still releasing albums


onyxaj

It's a double-edged sword. You either keep the same sound, and get accused of doing the same thing over and over, or you change it, and get ripped for changing your signature sound. You can't win. However, there's a huge difference between bands who have a sound (The Offspring, Korn) and bands that just play the same thing over and over (Five Finger Death Punch, Nickleback).


DamnableLies

The trick is to pull a "Jack White" and just start a new band to release under when you want to try a new sound


AnarchyPigeon2020

Green Day did it with their side band The Network. Literally exact same line-up, but The Network releases all their songs that don't fit the iconic Green Day signature style


UnDarling

They also release some punk/garage rock as Foxboro Hot Tubs


lebourse

Mozart. He did nothing since 1791.


Darth-Pooky

He suddenly stopped composing and then started decomposing.


trichyboii

Bro you're there reason I come to Reddit everyday. Thank you for making me chuckle like a dumbass.


insanity_banana5267

Heard his next albums going to be dropping soon


HamidPrflh

Sort by controversial for fun comments


cybernated-android

Its just the same five comments over and over


Reddit--Schmeddit

“Beatles, Nirvana, Queen, Taylor Swift, all rappers.” It’s not as interesting as I’d hoped.


FallingSky1

I love how emotional people are getting though. Let's redo this with actors and someone say "Keanu Reeves"


noahcal11

When I read this at first I thought those comments were saying that The Beatles, Nirvana, Queen, and Taylor Swift were actually all rappers and I was wondering how they reached that conclusion


whiskysage2

> all rappers Hip hop, as a genre, is over 40 years old. How is this always an answer for this question?


Seem2me

It is incredibly funny how the person saying "beatles" is upvoted but the people agreeing with them are downvoted


gridfilter667

Thanks, nice to see some actual answers other than Reddit jerking themselves off for noticing Chris Brown is a piece of shit for the millionth time


Thiccum420

We did it Reddit!


kingmidget_91

Pop-country, which mainly involves a pop song with some of the words switched out for vaguely country words like Truck or beer, and some of the generic pop beats are changed with the adding of a guitar and drums.


midwesternexposure

A dirt road, a cold beer, blue jeans, a red pickup, rural noun, simple adjective


sir-HP

I walk and talk like a field hand


NOTZawp

But the boots I’m wearing cost three grand


MonsieurFlappel

I write songs about riding tractors From the comfort of my private jet


penguino_123

I could sing in mandarin, you’d still know Im pandering


iPhantomGuy

Huntin' deer, chasin' trout, a Bud Light with the logo facin' out


NOTZawp

Hear that subtle mandolin? That’s textbook panderin’


StarMaster475

I own a private ranch that I rarely use


NOTZawp

I don’t like dirt…


CheesyJokesters

Are these real country lyrics? I can’t even tell.


iPhantomGuy

It's from "Country Song" by Bo Burnham


Chesterumble

I’ve always wanted a studio version of this.


Verstaerker82

Bo Burnham - Country Song from his netflix special "make happy"


t-poke

You dumb motherfuckers want a key change?


six44seven49

Thematically meandering...


mincecraft__

LEGALISE GERRYMANDERING


NOTZawp

No shoes, no shirt, no Jews, you didn’t hear that Sort of a mental typo


fuzzymcgee123

One verse, one chorus in the bag Now it's time to talk to the ladies


NOTZawp

^damn, ^we ^just ^skipping ^ahead? ^Alright… I’m hoping my southern charm offsets all the rape-y vibes I’m puttin’ out


infirmaryblues

It's a scarecrow


pinkkittenfur

Dammit, it's a scarecrow again!


FartsMcCooI

“You bring the girls… I’ll bring the beer… and the troops will bring the freedom”


erikleorgav2

My truck left me, my woman done me wrong. My tractor is carrying my baby, I need a beer at my favorite bar where mother tends bar


monatsiya

once you get past the basic answers of today’s mainstream pop stars, you really get into the juicy opinions loll


lavanchebodigheimer

I think Jay lo is overrated and I think her family agrees


Beckylately

Her entire music career was a big plot by Tommy Mottola because he hated Mariah Carey and wanted to ruin her career. It’s the only reason she even has a music career.


circus_pig

I wonder if he especially picked someone who couldn't sing to really slap her in the face, because that would piss me off the most if it were me.


venomous_frost

I think she agrees herself lol


jewelsandbones

A lot of her earlier hits aren’t even her singing lol. She’s a performer, and she made it work but her vocals are honestly quite average


Birdsofafeather777

This! Christina Milian and Ashanti sound great on her early songs LOL


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CyberShiroGX

My gawd... How did she get away with so much stealing?


justavault

Looks.


bgal81

And Mariah Carey's ex-husband basically creating Jennifer Lopez's career to push Mariah out of the spotlight after they divorced.


Butt_Whisperer

Bro, what the fuck... I mean, I always knew she wasn't a good singer but I didn't know she was straight up stealing vocals from other artists. That's fucked up.


ZoxieLutt

and not just vocals, She also tried to steal songs. Idk if you know who Amerie is but she was a popular R&B artist from the early 2000's and her and her producer had to leak her song, "1 Thing" because J. Lo was going to steal it and release it as her own. Suffice to say Amerie can actually sing and it was a hit.


Fettnaepfchen

Okay, now I don’t know how her own voice sounds at all, because everything is someone else?


jadolqui

This explains the “I don’t know her” comment from Mariah. Makes so much sense!


Ashenrohk

Sounds like you've been fooled by the rocks that she's got.


uatuthewatcher8

I don’t know her.


immikey0299

After reading the thread, so every artist ever that charted?


Devreckas

Well you generally have to be highly rated to have any chance of being overrated.


Weiland101

I guess artists that chart are generally “rated” so it makes sense.


tagini

I think the main point to all the controversial replies here (The Beatles, Queen, Eminem, Nirvana, ...) is "time". In THEIR time, each of those now "overrated" artists were one of the greats because they were pioneers. They were doing new things that had never been heard or done. When you approach the music from today's perspective it isn't all that exciting as it was back then because we've had dozens of artists doing the same and every variation on it since. We've even had new greats doing new things, building from those earlier pioneers which further "dumbs down" their original impact. Example: Uriah Heep and Deep Purple were among the first "(Heavy) Metal" bands. In today's standards you'd be hard pressed to call it metal or even hard rock, but in the 70's these guys were making some of the heaviest music around. ​ Edit: I agree Uriah Heep and Deep Purple aren't specifically the first metal bands, so I've reworded to them being -among- the first. I could sum up every other one, but there'd be no end and these two get the point across just fine.


PachymuNyet

I'm old enough to remember KISS being called "Satanic" but now it just sounds like a dorky pop band. ♫♪ *"I... wanna rock n roll all niiight... And party every day!"* ♬♩


diamond

Same with all of the Hair Bands of the 80s. Ratt, Twisted Sister, Motley Crue, Def Leppard, etc. These guys were absolutely *terrifying* to parents at the time. Looking at them today, they're just goofy.


Geomaxmas

My grandma thought Duran Duran was to evil for my dad.


Yellowsunflowerlover

Lmao I loved all these bands. My little sister just got in Motley Crue, and loves them. There was nothing ever terrifying about them. If anything. Motley Crue saved my suicidal sister's life.


Neconomancer

Hamlet is just a cliché plot and people quoting famous lines.


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SerChonk

Like how people like to dismiss Black Sabbath because of Ozzy's antics, forgetting that Tony Iommi *invented a whole new sound* for the genre - to the point that he's considered the father of heavy metal.


DJLoudestNoises

"There are a lot of people and bands who can reasonably claim to be the first to play heavy metal, but no one could after Black Sabbath"


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vapeorama

The term heavy metal itself comes from Steppenwolf's *Born to be wild* ("heavy metal thunder"). In today's standards this (great) song wouldn't even be called hard rock. But deep inside I still think that it's the attitude that matters.


BigBeagleEars

I mean, I really do like smoking lightening


StevenAssantisFoot

I had a coworker who sarcastically said about the Ramones, "wow what an original sound and look." And I had to break it to him that they were so groundbreaking and unique when they started that people have never stopped copying them ever since.


MrVeazey

Same with Operation Ivy. I heard them when I was first getting into ska and punk, and I thought "these guys are kind of hackey" until my friend told me when they put that record out and that half of Rancid is former Op Ivy.


iwishyouwereabeer

This is an important view on the topic. However many of those greats I don’t consider overrated due to paving the road for so many more to come. If it wasn’t for Elvis, Beatles, Stones, Pink Floyd etc, we wouldn’t have the music we have today. It would be different. It’s always growing.


johannvillanueva29

Tekashi 69. That boy is trash and then some fr


ThatPro39

agreed. he looks like a discarded skittle wrapper and """""""""raps"""""""""" like one too


NysonEasy

I always though he looks like a detention desk in an inner city high school.


acidchalupa

I find modern pop country( Florida Georgia line, thomas Rhett, etc.) to be quite insufferable. The lame accent and subject matter just gets absurdly old. And its genuinely surprising that people choose to listen to it.


DoofusTinyRick

Whenever I think of "pop country", I think of [this.](https://youtu.be/y7im5LT09a0)


xerox13ster

I write songs for the people who do jobs in the towns that I'd never move to.


taylorb2020x

I walk and talk like a field hand But the boots I’m wearing cost three grand


xerox13ster

Y'ALL DUMB MOTHERFUCKERS WANT A KEY CHANGE?


Mountainbranch

Thematically meandering, fuck your ears I'm pandering!


Mannish_Boi

IT'S A FUCKIN SCARECROW AGAIN!


WadeEffingWilson

I grew up listening to real country (and will turn it on occasionally) but he forgot to mention when those hacks pay for a well-establish artist to jump in and sing a few lines--you know, for authenticity. I still have no fucking idea what Florida Georgia line is but I can clearly see that it shares a target demographic with the type of people that sought out, paid for, and installed truck nuts.


Fajardo1253

“I’m hoping my southern charms offsets all these *rapey* vibes I’m puttin out.”


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IT’S A FUCKING SCARECROW AGAIN!


TrailerParkTonyStark

Thank you for the link. I’d never heard of this guy, or watched any of his performances/videos. That’s fucking genius right there. My EXACT sentiments regarding what they call ‘county music’ nowadays. I need to check out more of this cat. I’m already a fan.


realsavvy

If you're just discovering Bo Burnham's stuff, you're in for a real treat. I'd save INSIDE for last though.


SteffeEric

I’d watch inside first and then again last it’s way more sad that way.


TheMooseIsBlue

Seriously though, he’s a great writer. He rhymes with panderin’ I think 5 times with a different word or phrase each time. It is so hard to write a good song and it is so hard to write jokes and he does both so seamlessly and intelligently.


spit-evil-olive-tips

[That Funny Feeling](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPB6u1BqZqU) is also an amazing example of his songwriting


Frito_Pendejo

So good. I could honestly pick pretty much any bar as a textbook example of good lyricism.


TheWestButt

His song All Eyes on Me has the best harmony I've ever heard and it gives me chills every time I hear it.


EllipticPeach

God me too. I always thought of him as a comedian who used music as a backdrop to his jokes, but Inside proved that he is genuinely a brilliant songwriter and can mimic the zeitgeist absolutely perfectly


NotaHippyBus

It's so wild that he can write bangers that are genuinely good comedy at the same time while most professionals are lucky to do one or the other.


textro

Without clicking on it, Bo Burnham. Am I right?


Fajardo1253

Yep


Environmental_Cup413

Clap songs... same rhythm, a little upbeat, talking about real working class American leisure stuff, so vanilla it makes me uncomfortable. It sounds like money making, not like genuine songs.


swolleddy

DABABY. How is he 11 in the world on the monthly listeners chart. Every single flow is the exact same


finger_milk

He is the only man who claims to be able to turn another man into a convertible. I'm not sure what's the confusion here.


JESquirrel

Don't say my cars topless. Say the titties are out.


GlorifiedBurito

Whenever I think of DABABY I think of [this](https://youtu.be/jjyDfLPKmNk)


Mildly-1nteresting

Well that's burned in my head now. Thanks?


Gusst_boyy

LETS GOOOOO


ChefFrumundaYamudda

“You ready for me to switch the flow (I thought you’d never ask)” *raps in same exact flow just slightly faster*


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wastakenanyways

Yeah first few songs were like "wow this slaps" but you hear a few more and you notice the producer has like only 3 sounds in their kit and DaBaby raps exactly the same.


NVPack68

DJ Khalid - such an annoying tool that has to announce himself on every song. “And another one…”


ISellAwesomePatches

Ah yeah, literally the guy seems inspired by all those dodgy Limewire tracks where your favourite song had been re-recorded over by some 14 year old kid with his karaoke mic plugged into his laptop announcing his name and the song, ruining all intros.


Razzle_Dazzle08

Limewire nostalgia.


triceracrops

I saw him open for beyonce and Jay-Z, he set his "DJ booth" up in the corner on this huge stage that took up 80% of a stadium floor. But there he is in the corner like a bad child waving his arms around playing other peoples songs. Ohh and I'm not making fun of his weight, but he rode a mobility scooter onto stage. Then halfway thru rode the mobility scooter around the stage, then rode it off into the distance. This "performance" was followed by beyonce running up and down the stadium floor while suspended 50' in the air, while wearing heals, while doing 10+ outfit changes. He was a absolute disgrace of an opener for that womans amazing professionalism. Edit: [this isn't the show I saw but here a video for everyone asking. I personally enjoy the little crouch he does for extra speed](https://youtu.be/NoS1Tk-kKiA)


Jimmy48Johnson

He's basically Cartman at this point.


DopeyApple81

Even cartman has more fans. And more class.


grizznuggets

Obligatory comment suggesting you watch his episode of Hot Ones: https://youtu.be/1HYEC_FlgAg


bustab

Lamest Hot Ones showing ever...and he owns a hotwing restaurant.


gojirra

So bizarre to think that he has never even tasted his own product because he couldn't even handle Cholulla.


kingk895

That man has the spice tolerance of the abominable snowman


bob_esponjas

Oh yeah, one of the worst episodes of Hot Ones.


Kingful

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RobSchneidersCareer

It's so funny because Sean Evans is so personable and really seems like a really gracious interviewer, always shining a positive light on whoever's in the hot seat. But in this episode he literally cannot hide his contempt lmao.


TheOneWhosCensored

It’s honestly crazy to see him get pissed. 99% of the episodes he’s super nice and totally into the show, and then there’s those few who suck and he just oozes contempt.


Silent_Bort

The feeling I got from it was that Sean was a legit fan of Khalid at the start, but then Khalid was a total douche and started shitting all over the show. He even said he'd never heard of it and didn't know what he was coming to film. I'd be pissed too.


TheOneWhosCensored

Which makes no sense to me, why would you insult the product you’re on? Either lie and say you’ve seen some or that you’re new but wanted to experience it. Gordon Ramsay managed to insult the show while complimenting it, and Sean went along and joked with him, because it came from a good place.


Dragonace1000

Because Khalid is a narcissistic asshole who thinks everyone is beneath him and that the world revolves around him. He has no filter or off button on his mouth, so if you just let him keep talking he'll put his foot in his mouth 10 times out of 10.


says-nice-toTittyPMs

But also, weren't the wings from Khaled's wing restaurant? He said he flew in his own chef to drop off wings for the show... Why would he bring his own wings if he had no idea what the show was about? He even says that Hot Ones was a "big show" when he's talking up his own wings... Khaled is so full of shit.


mrfreeze2000

I appreciate him even more for it The best guests are always the chefs though. Ramsay was hilarious and Alton Brown didn't even break a sweat


Constantannihilation

I love Alton, but Lorde just dethroned him as the GOAT. She didn’t even take a sip, and her critiques/ reviews of the sauce are quite thoughtful. As somebody who has done the gauntlet at home, the amount of last dab she did was straight up beastly.


sph724

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaoEyTZpv18 Really deserves a watch. She just casually goes through the whole lineup like its nothing.


M_Drinks

Guy Fieri didn’t take a sip of water or milk the entire time, and only pointed it out at the end like a mic drop.


The_Palm_of_Vecna

I haven't seen Gordon Ramsay's, but Alton's was so good partly because he was just critiquing the flavor of the hot sauce the whole time.


hueylewisNthenews

The last jab Sean gives him at the end kills me - Khaled says it's amazing he did three wings and Sean's just like 'Yeah okay, congrats... very brave effort'


snukebox_hero

He never said he da best, he out here saying "we da best!"


Grim0616

That's because he named his record label "we the best music"


PrawnsAreCuddly

DJ Khaled* There‘s a~~nother~~ musician who is actually talented named Khalid.


Perfect-Lawfulness-6

He doesn't even make music. He literally just says his own name. He's a fat adult toddler posing as his own hype man.


king__ball

he doesn’t even produce wtf does he actually do?


CategoryPlus

He gets people in a room together essentially. He picks a producer and then pays for big features. He basically picks who he wants on a song then puts his stamp on it. Literally doesn't do anything creatively aside from choosing who works on a song.


ridik_ulass

> He gets people in a room together essentially. He picks a producer and then pays for big features. He basically picks who he wants on a song then puts his stamp on it. ahh the steve aoki method.


CategoryPlus

Hit the nail on the head, so common place in EDM these days especially.


ridik_ulass

I used to run a club, Steve Aoik used to buy up the best acts for dim mak, then force you to "pay" for him to DJ even if you didn't want to, because they are "touring together" and he got to play the playboy lifestyle flying over the world and playing in all the clubs, but he was a useless burden and no one wanted to see him. not sure if that faded and his fake it till you make it think with daddies money finally paid off.


Lostremote-

I saw him advertised in Las Vegas last week. I think he has a residency at the Hakkasan resort.


Elcapitano2u

DJ Khalid, I don’t understand why he’s so popular


darealkrkchnia

The fact that the most popular non-single song from his latest album wasn't even produced by him is one of the funniest things I've ever seen tbh


adventure_in_gnarnia

He’s only really produces in the same sense of a movie producer. He puts up money and gets a say in the final cut. He doesn’t even make beats.


The5thGreatApe

I would compose a whole book on this topic. Edit: Thanks for the reward... (Should I begin.. composing it after all? Hmm?!)


Arxl

Buzzfeed is on it for tomorrow's Reddit rip.


lost_james

and I won’t believe number 4


garloot

I scrolled and scrolled looking for maroon 5. Here it is for those that hate the schmaltzy cringe kings.


VERO2020

Seen Adam Levine posted here several times here, he's the lead singer, but I don't know how long it has been since Maroon 5 put anything new out.


PhillyNetminder

JAAAASOON DERULOOOO. If you need to say your name in every fucking song, I actually appreciate it so I can quickly skip it.


Milkassassin34

mr worldwide would like to have a word with you


Biffmcgee

Say what you will about Pitbull, but his songs get a party going and fill in some gaps during a set. His music does exactly what it intends to do. He’s the filler of the music world.


thepoisoneddart

He is also a pretty good dude as far as I have heard


sopheroo

Yups, Pitbull being a geniune nice guy is part of the reason he's getting redemption - five years ago, I think he would unironically have topped the list. He's on his way to become the music equivalent of Guy Fieri.


Rough_Original2973

DJ Khalid!!! I thank him because every time I hear Deejay Khaaalidd I press skip.


SPEK2120

Gotta hand it to him tho, he can yell into a mic like a complete buffoon like no other and plays a mean rolodex.


Catermelon81194

Kids bop edit: I saw people in the comments saying it was just bad and not overrated, however I've met a lot of people who actually enjoy it. I remember when I was younger I used to go over to my neighbors house and we would listen to it every time a new album came out.


Arxl

Especially when they cover songs about sex, like Whistle.


Chiefnastynate

The Lizzo one they changed the lyrics to be an unintentional euphemism that just made it worse.


awc23108

Do you remember the lyrics?


Cantoloupe_thing

Please tell me there isn’t a kidz bop version of WAP


JimmyJackAndTheOffs

Make the song about an angry janitor. Wet and pushy.


HuskyLuke

Weird Al could pull this off.


Mountainbranch

Grab a bucket and a mop to get wet and pushy!


buttcrispy

I don’t see how you can call them overrated, I have legitimately never seen a positive opinion of them until reading some of the replies to this comment


allmilhouse

people are just listing music they don't like and not making any argument for them actually being overrated


infoinformation

agreed, little basterds


qilinsage

The Wiggles. I swear their audience has no taste, they're absolute kids imo. Their sound is so generic they can swap out band members multiple times and make not an inch of difference. And if you get a song of theirs in your head, the day is ruined


ISellAwesomePatches

As an avid metalhead Mum with twin toddlers... I fucking love The Wiggles. I mean they could be into Peppa Pig with the incessant snorting every 10 seconds, or they could be into any other annoying YouTuber, but their favourite is The Wiggles and me and their Dad are well on the hype-train for them. I was bored wondering what "Waltzing Matilda" was on about when they covered it. It's about a guy committing fucking suicide to avoid imprisonment. Meteorology is a fucking banger too I don't care what anyone says. My kids absolutely love anything musical instrument related because of The Wiggles and that's great for me because I own 4 different instruments. I remember when my brother grew up on Thomas the Wank Engine and he just looked at my guitars like they were boring. The Wiggles may be annoying on the surface, but I will die on the hill that there is no better influence on TV if you're letting your toddlers have screen time.


qilinsage

I joke of course. They're a national treasure


bitsysredd

Fruit Salad slaps tho. Hot Potato is like 20 years old and could be song of the year material today. 🙌🏾🔥


scarlettskadi

The original Wiggles are the GOAT. New ones aren't even close.


NicksHair

They definitely don't compare, but having grown up on the old Wiggles, I actually quite like Emma and Lachlan (and of course Anthony). I thought Simon's performance felt kinda stiff at first, but I'm sure he's grown into it by now.