Asian men that went down non-stereotypical career paths, how are you doing?
By - machinavelli
“Drug dealers” lmfao
I’m desi and looking into a bartending for a few years then a career in EMS
I'm sure there are plenty of asian "legal drug dealers" aka pharmacists haha
That’s a pretty Asian career though
Ikr. I have never even found an Asian drug dealer or a plug in my life. Severely lacking in diversity here 😔 no representation whatsoever.
>I have never even found an Asian drug dealer or a plug in my life.
asian plugs are out there, just gotta look hard. There's plugs on reddit shit lol
EMT school no one gave a shit. It might be different in other fields of EMS if I go forward with it, I’m sure there may be some teasing if I went to fire academy or something but if I went to Paramedic school no ones gonna care
I heard it pays well /s
Levels are pointless, it just imports it
What type of bar?
I use to do work in that industry. I actually think it would help 99% of the guys here.
Not sure what kind, hopefully a college bar so I can feel closer to society
I laughed at that part lol like ok writers tattoo artists painters
Drug dealers 🤔 😳
This past May was my 30th year as a locksmith.
I've got 12 ish more till my retirement at 56-57 because I spent the last 13 years working for a place that has a pension plan and I'm on the old contract.
Will never be rich, but there is food on the table, I own a home, and have a couple cars. Married, have a kid, still trying to live the "American dream"
All in all not too bad, still have some aunts and uncles kicking around that question my career choices. They never offered to help with education so I DGAF what they think. I'm doing better than most of them. Never wanted to be in debt for school and dropped out of college when I ran out of money for it.
It's a bit rough working with a bunch of blue collar rednecks in all the trades... They are ALL casually racist and don't even understand that they are.
Not worth complaining, not worth the black mark for being the guy that "pulls the race card"
I called out a coworker for his racist remarks and it caught the attention of the higher ups who ended up promoting me. Told me they liked how I was proactive about upholding the values of the company.
The guy I called out, as it turns out, says racist things to other people too. So a bunch of Black and Asian folks backed me up when I called him out. Even a few white folks who were uncomfortable with the racist remarks he makes backed me up.
Of course I don't know about your industry or your situation. If they're all in on it, then it can be harder to challenge.
I have a very nonstereotypical career; none. I doordash when I want some extra cash.
Otherwise I spend most of my time traveling, gaming, reading, making art, and dating.
Sounds like a modern day renaissance man
Except I suck at all those things. So not a renaissance man.
I saved 100k+. I doordash so I don't need to tap into that. When travel re-opens first thing I'm going to do is take a nice long trip.
I make less now but I sleep more, exercise more, have sex more, see the world more, visit my friends and family more, and spend more time doing things I enjoy. My mental and physical health has gotten better. My relationship with my family has gotten better.
Health insurance is the only reason I'll be rejoining the workforce again.
What did you do to save 100k…
I have a few Southeast Asian friends who drive full time. They’re in between long term professional jobs though...and live with their parents...
I've been in the workforce for 6 years before taking this break. I was a transit supervisor in a small city making around 60k. For a frame of reference, in cities like SF/Seattle/NYC this job pays 90-150k a year.
Net pay after taxes were about 3500 a month, 1100 goes to living expenses. 400 dollars on whatever. 2k a month over 4 years would get you close to 100k.
how do you pay rent with just doordash ?
My rent is only 600 bucks. I make around 1130 a month just doing friday and saturday nights. After taxes it's about 702. Then I write off my taxes and get half of my taxes back. But of the tax I get back I spend about half of it on oil changes and gas.
It wouldn't be worth it if you have a nice car. I have a car that's only worth around 4-5k.
I can cover my living expenses with 3 shifts. Usually I work 3 days (lunch + dinner so 6 shifts) to have a bit extra spending money on things like eating out, video games, etc.
That's a pretty sweet deal
Do you find doordash better than grubhub or Uber eats? I’ve done the latter with mixed results
I've read it depends on your area. For me it's doordash. But I run Uber eats too. Grubhub isn't too great in my area.
Corporate sales. Surrounded by type-a, extroverted, charismatic, and happy hour loving colleagues. I’m introverted and don’t drink. But it’s going well. Love what I do
Well it’s definitely forced me to learn how to be outwardly extroverted. I’ve picked up lots of great traits in the job being surrounded by social people
I burned out after a year of this.
How do you deal with being in social/work situations where everyone around you is drinking?
Same thing I do at the bar, club, or parties. Be social, talk to people, engage in the conversation, try to have fun and build connections. Most of the time I still consider these events work and am “on” for them. I definitely still have fun but it’s tiring and an active effort which I’ve learned to be pretty good at. Most people are surprised when I say I’d rather go home and relax alone than to a happy hour with coworkers
Me too. I find happy hours exhausting especially if it's a big group.
Haha same bro. I’ve def taken “calls” and “restroom breaks” just to regroup and kill time during these events
Happy hour with people on my team or people I already know and get along with is fine. I enjoy that, and I like hanging out that way.
The big corporate happy hours are annoying. I hated recruiting events, when everyone is "on" or you're suppose to act a certain way. Those are the worst. There's always so much drama and gossip that comes from these events too.
I totally get the restroom break thing. On corporate getaways, I'll just chill in my hotel and watch TV. I'll do the big happy hour for like 1 hour and then go back.
I've found out a lot of people feel this way. I actually ended up meeting up with and hooking up with a girl at a networking event where I was exhausted and said aloud "this event suuuuucks."
In enterprise IT sales too. Not many of us Asian males from what I’ve seen. I’m very extroverts though lol
Honestly anyone can do sales and we have a few introverts on the team (we took the MBTI as a group building exercise recently.) Sales takes confidence and continual improving and tenacity to be good, and that’s not exclusive to extroverts alone.
Damn, you're good! I like your positivity, no wonder you're good at it!
Became co-chair of our new internal global ASEAN diversity inclusion group. I’ve been part of this company for less than 8mo haha.
That sounds like hell to me, but glad you're doing well.
Hah, ngl… it can become pretty tiresome. But it’s taught me how to carry a conversation with anyone about anything, negotiate effectively in the midst of tension/emotion, build sustainable relationships, etc. I kind of view it like boot camp for one of my biggest weaknesses.
If it wasn’t for this career, I’d probably be a much shittier date, boring at parties, and awkward in large social settings. I still get social anxiety but at least now I know once I’m get past the initial mental hurdle, I have these skills to fall back on.
Enlisted in Navy, 3 years in so far and progressed along pretty well. Leaning towards getting out with a year left though, just not my cup of tea to be honest.
Can't say i can ignore the time when I was fairly new to the command this guy from Texas was saying "what's up ching Wang?" as I walked in the shop one night, I just walked out of work after hearing that. Thankfully the supervisor took it upon himself and addressed that behavior.
At least where I'm at right now they're serious about racial equality. Sure we crack jokes - but with no intent of racial discrimination. If someone made a hurtful comment the upper chain won't hesitate to fuck them up. I've been treated with honor, dignity, and respect because I know i work my ass off and am always eager to learn the ropes of my current field. I've progressed relatively fast in rank and never got evaluated in a different light because of my skin color.
My gripe with my situation doesn't involve the people i work with, I'm thankful the people I've worked with so far have been mostly pleasant. It just sucks i got assigned somewhere very far away from my home and I'm feeling the weight of it, needs of the military hardly ever align with personnel's desire and that's something we all need to consider.
For me, only from my friends
There’s a lot of Filipino Americans in the US Navy, I have 3 in my close family/friends.
I was going to do USAF reserves but sadly didn’t pass MEPS due to a preexisting condition
What's your rate?
I’m a plumber I don’t love it but it pays the bills and can one day own my own company.
Plumbers make bank
Yeah it’s good money for sure, can be bloody hard work though
I'm a driver at Ups and it sucks sometimes but it does pay well for my area. I make $1k plus per week after taxes. After the pay progression I'll be making $40 some bucks an hour.
I worked as a package handler for 2 years at $15 an hour as a part timer. Finally got enough senority to sign a driving position bid. After that ups sent me to this [driving school](https://youtu.be/HkPatmQFLXU) (watch it, there's a cute white chick in the vid). If you're thinking about driving for ups I advise you learn your 5 seeing habits and the 10 point commentary. If you want more info about the job head over to r/UPSers
edit: apply for a seasonal driver and bust your ass off and you can get into your local union.
Retail Management, not even a GM and a eBay side hustle. I own my own car and my own place in a growing medium-large area.
is the ebay side hustle embezzling from your store’s inventory and selling that stuff on eBay
Lmao no, I’m a regular at my local goodwill.
My SEA friends that delt drugs back in HS all drive nice BMW's and GTR's. They also travel to a lot of clubs, most dating ABG's. I think they're doing well. lmfao
The ones I know got locked up for a while. They are ok now tho. Lol.
I’m a truck driver, hate everything about it. Definitely hoping that I’ll be dead soon.
What about the owner operator path?
Owning your own truck.
No thanks. Already hate being a local driver. Being stuck inside of said truck for months on end will definitely make me want to hang myself.
Those don’t really help much. Wish that I could find a better job.
It’s definitely a thought, but I’m tired of back breaking labor jobs. Wish that I had an office job. Seems less stressful.
Grass is always greener on the other side. Your trading physical for mental stress.
I can maybe live with that. I’m already in a messed up place in the head. Sooner or later I’ll just shoot myself in the head.
I thought about quitting my job and doing the owner operator thing. Eventually having my own fleet of trucks with my name on it...This whole fucking country will learn how to pronounce my name one day. Lmao.
Trucking sucks. It’s just a headache and everyone on the road just seems to hate you.
Yea people always told me not to do it, but whatever. I don't plan on doing it for over 3 years. I'll just hire people and manage the fleet. Easier said than done tho. Fuel prices are high.
Everything is becoming expensive. Which is why life sucks no matter what.
What do u want to do besides driving trucks?
I don’t even know. I just hate working. Wish that I could’ve been a trust fund baby.
That's so sad. Don't say that.
It’s not sad, it’s true. Hate my shitty life. Thus making me look forward to being dead already.
I sent you a pm.
Do you have a plan on changing it?
You really never know how things might change though. People often under estimate how much can change in 5 years. Youd be surprised.
You should see a therapist and talk about your depression. There is always a way to a better life.
Not with my shitty life. Plus, therapy is expensive, don’t have the extra funds to talk to someone about my dumb life.
You are not ugly honey. I've seen your pics. You cute. Hold on.
Thanks, but whenever I see myself in the mirror, I still see an ugly human being. Glad to hear that someone doesn’t see me as ugly. But for some reason I just don’t see it.
Well I'm starting law school now but back in the day, I took some time off upon graduating high school and I graduated undergrad late (in my mid-20s whereas most ppl graduate by 22) and for some time I was just working retail. So what I'm trying to say is, I'm on the "stereotypically asian" path now I guess, but I'm a bit older than most ppl who are at the stage I'm currently at, and for a while I wasn't on that stereotypical path at all.
So I started off working as a bagger, then as a cashier, and then got moved up to supervisor. It was a big deal back then and for a moment I was genuinely thinking about forgoing school and just trying to rise up the corporate latter of that retail company I first got promoted in, while also making music (I've been engineering/producing for years). Looking back I laugh a bit inside at how much of a big deal my job was to me back then, like I just took simply stocking merchandise and running a small store so seriously, and at one point I genuinely thought I was gonna become a big music producer one day. But honestly man, it just sucks imho to know that practically any person on the street can do your job w/ just a little bit of training, like in that type of retail job you're just replaceable and they let you know it. Plus I remember when I was dating this Asian girl back then who went to a pretty good college for computer science, she just gave me all of these subtle little jabs at my position, like being surprised that a "job like mine" would make me dress formally, and just overall talking down on such retail positions. Also, being an immigrant, I just felt a strong compulsion to "live up" to my parents' sacrifices; it just sucks always seeing that look of disappointment from your parents when you know they sacrificed so much of their lives to put you in a certain position, while you threw all that away your entire childhood. So yeah, I guess I ended up taking the more "basic" route and people may think it's stupid to try and please your parents, but I'm also genuinely interested in a career path in law (have always been good at arguing + interested in philosophy and stuff) and it's hard for people to completely understand what it's like to have an immigrant asian parents' sacrifices go to waste throughout their entire childhood and a part of their young adulthood.
I made a complete 180 turn and now I'm fully on that "asian parent bragworthy" route, I guess. Even while I'm applying to law schools now, I feel like my parents push me sometimes to certain law schools (like some of the iveys for example) because they wanna say "my son goes to XYZ law school," but idk. I'm also a bit older than most ppl at my stage like I said, so they know that they have to leave me to make the ultimate decision. But all in all, I don't regret my decision at all, and at least the "non-traditional" route that I specifically had didn't hold all that great of a future at all imho.
yeah she saw I was in a dress shirt and tie straight from work and asked me "really, THAT type of job makes you dress that nice?" In the end I think a big reason why she ended things was cuz she thought I was a loser back then, aside from me making some bad decisions in that relationship due to inexperience at the time. She won't admit that but I can make that assumption based on her actions.
I don't wanna be one of those asian dudes who have very little experience w/ women while in their 20s and then end up marrying some girl that just wants a provider. So I make sure to work on other things (like appearances) while also working on my professional career. But at the same time, being able to provide is often synonymous w/ masculinity in Asian culture, and surely I want to be able to do so when I'm a bit older, as my father was able to do for my family.
My mom would absolutely kill me if I did such a thing lmao but ngl while in undergrad, after I transferred, I was being really dumb + risky and could've easily ended up w/ such a nightmare occurrence. Thank god nothing like that happened and I gotta make sure to be more careful while in law school.
Nothing pops up for some reason when I click that link, idk if it's just my computer or what
ahh yeah that guy actually went to my alma mater as well, I watched a few of his videos but I don't consistently follow him. which videos do you suggest?
sorry but f \*\*her she sounds like a b\*\*\*\*. That's not how you encourage someone to step up.
I am.in training and development / public speaking, just transitioned to it a few months after 25 years in hospitality business management, on the Corporate side.
I LOVE it so far, the pay is amazing, my job is totally flexible, I have complete autonomy, a company car, credit card, phone and laptop...but I am not going to lie..its strange to feel like I am always the only Brown person on a zoom call of 60 people.
I saw someone mention something similar to this. The most awkward thing is that j don't drink heavy. When you travel a lot for work it seems like most people are alcoholics and partyers. I like a good nights sleep personally..lol
I'm a proofreader, copy editor and occasional writer. I got a really good editing job right before COVID hit but then got laid off because of the pandemic. Since then it's been all occasional freelance work and collecting unemployment. Working in publishing can be tough at times, especially if you're an Asian male. Lots of discrimination. Despite having over 15 years' experience and a master's in English, I have a very tough time finding jobs. I don't regret my career choice though because I really like reading and writing, and creative pursuits in general (outside of work I play/write music, skateboard, and write creatively). My parents and even my wife have tried to convince me to study coding or programming but I can't get excited about it at all, so I don't even bother. I would just half-ass it. I've made peace with the fact that I'll probably never be rich but I'm glad I won't be one of those corporate guys who has a mid-life crisis and decides to become a surfer or buy a motorcycle in his 50s or 60s. I've experienced feeling trapped in a corporate job before in my late-20s to mid-30s and it sucked. Gotta stay the course.
I’ve very interested in this field. The publishing field is mainly liberal white women right? Were they trying to be racist or were just ignorant to Asian issues?
There are a decent amount of white guys and other POC too. But it's kind a microcosm of American society where they don't really include Asians, particularly Asian men, in diversity. They're more likely to hire a feminist or boba liberal AF because AFs push the same narratives. There's also the stigma of an Asian name, which they don't associate with English-language editor.
Don’t know if i count. I worked in pubs in the kitchen, also in customer service for a while, before moving on to corporate job now.
Do we think that law is a "traditionally asian" profession? There are truly not that many asian lawyers in the US.
Any sort of professional doctoral degree is a “traditional” Asian profession I believe.
Union electrician and looking for a path out. Pays well, usually good peers. Disagree with the commute times/work hours, some aspects of the financial aspects of the union (non-union really will give you more control of your money), and being tired all the time (with no to little free time). Wish I could use my head more than relying on install speed. Using my head is required yeah, but I still don't thing anything is more than planning things out, getting the material where it's needed and so on. If I picked another trade I would stay longer.
Used to work in tech. Now I'm a fire fighter.
Tech marketing and video production
Currently a video editor and an author. It's been pretty chill. I work from home 90% of the time, even before the lockdowns.
I'm currently in growth and sales at a climate tech company. Only brown guy on my team, although the CEO of this company is Indian too and there's a couple of Iranian/Arab dudes on my team too (brown/spicy white depending on your perspective). Before this, I started another climate tech company that I ended up selling my stake in after an acquihire situation (my cofounder decided to go with the acquihire). Long term plan is to start another climate tech company working on blue carbon markets and ecosystem restoration. There's a few other Desis in this space, not too many Asians though.
Anyone who went into sports management?
I do construction management. You definitely don't see many Asians in this sector
There are some Asian contractors in ethnic enclaves areas that mostly service the ethnic community. Are you not around one of those?
I'm a bucket truck operator in a tree removal business in Tennessee. I drive big trucks and large machines, not to mention operate chainsaws, polesaws, and leaf blowers daily. It's pretty cool. I do some sketchy dangerous shit, but I love the challenge! I've cut trees anywhere from the ground to 70ft in the air. I've been doing it for 2 years now.
My biggest issue with this job that relates to this subreddit is the casual racism. I'm the only poc in this small company, so comparatively, I'm pretty exotic. I'm a Chinese dude with long hair and I'm really tan, so I get commented on my race a LOT. Most people just assume I'm native american which is fine, I get it. But Damn, some people are just plain rude af. Sometimes they don't even ask. They'll say something like "you know, you look like an indian." Like really? You're only the 5th person to tell me this week. It's awkward when it's a customer, because they'll talk to the team about the job and the only thing they have to say to me is about my skin color and that's it, convo done. I had someone come up to me in a gas station bathroom and tell me that he and his wife saw me going into the bathroom and they thought that i was Native American. Like wow, this is exactly the convo I was hoping to have while I take a piss
I’m an architect, it sucks.
Low pay for the amount of schooling you go through. Stressful, long hours.
Drug dealing aka pharmacist which actually belongs to the stereotypical Asian career path 😅
I am pursuing Interaction Design (UX-UI, or just a branch of compsci) but on the side I illustrate and stuff. I still want to play the provider role in the relationship
can you tell Hulu to fix their shit design ?
I feel like design has become more and more popular with Asians here.
Occupational Therapist. Not the traditional medical career by Asian family expectations but its a great job with massive demand where I live.
Working at a charter school. So far so good.
I’m a military officer in the US Air Force; getting promoted to Major in January, so I can’t complain 🤷🏻♂️ plot twist, I’m a healthcare administrator, lol.
Wow what a refreshing post , reading the comments too.
I wouldn't say im part of the stereotype but my career path has been mainly IT and logistics.
So I graduated with an IT degree, worked In law and logistics and my path is pretty much split between the 3.
I personally enjoyed the subjects and do have ambition to be promoted to a very high position but at the same time wouldn't rule myself working in another sector, could be sales, or a non office job or in catering as I've heard some very positive feedbacks from people who started their own food takeaway/restaurant.
Industrial design. Although it isn't stereotypically associated with asians to the general public but those actually are in the field will know that the field is full of people like us. So I'm not sure if I am one of those "breaking the stereotype" Asians.
I used to work in IT, now i'm a professional gambler in the stock market.
I'm up about 130k all time. I'm in pretty safe stuff , and bought up a lot in the March drop during Covid. Dividends I get around 400 to 500 a month. I also sell covered calls and that generates around 500 to 1k a month. I'm slowly moving it all to a broad market Etf so I don't have to mess with it as much. I was joking about used to work in IT, I do still work cuz I almost blew up my account a few times with options.
Joined the marines at 18 (currently 19) signed a recon contract cause I wanted to be a badass, went to ITB to train as an infantrymen where it was awkward cause there’s not a lot of Asian guys in the infantry nonetheless the marine corps. It’s definitely one of the hardest job in the marines especially when we’re rucking cause I’m a smaller guy but it’s goin great I love my life. Get some dumbass comments about me being Asian sometimes along with the stereotypes n shit but most of the time they’re just joking and don’t actually mean it cause most of us are 18-19 and straight outta high school but besides that everything’s fine
I left medicine and finance. Have two graduate degrees. I just pivoted to enterprise software sales.
I’m doing well and on an accelerated path. No bamboo ceiling all my own individual contributor merit.
In the entire lower 48 states US territory I’m one of 2 Asian American males. Most Asians I encounter are back office like finance, or in operations. Not many are client facing. I’ve recently become a co-chair for our new ASEAN diversity inclusion group....and I just joined the company less than a year ago. This is a global Fortune 1000 company.
What's it like being the face of a company?
I'm desi and I tutor remotely. I have currently taken an interest in programming.